Grid Talk Podcast
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7c0I2BtGQ84uOzUm4CNsv7?si=KFzjZuG6TFCtpbcjO9p40w&dl_branch=1
Garage Talk with Chris Hacker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCcVmvHwWjY
In The Marbles – With Chris Hacker
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SWTdx5eBVIYxBXtnGiFfG?si=zFnAKyI1R7GbzSA4bDgi6w&dl_branch=1